Hacking Windows 7 Media Center

Remote Potato now Streaming Recorded TV and more

by @ 12:15 pm on April 8th, 2010 in programs, recording tv, streaming tv with 8 Comments

baked_potato Remote Potato’s original accomplishment, allowing us to view Media Center’s EPG remotely and even schedule recordings may have been dwarfed by it’s newest one. Remote Potato now has the ability to stream recorded TV from your Media Center machine to anywhere with internet access. There’s also been a number of improvements to the guide functions (the original reason we love it). Let’s take another look at what used to be just a handy way to schedule recordings while away from the Media Center.

To get started with Remote Potato’s newest features we’ll need to download and install the latest version of Remote Potato from FatAttitude. The program will need to be installed on the main Media Center machine only. Remote Potato uses a web-based front end for remote viewing meaning no extra software to install on each machine. Once installed on the Media Center machine access to the front end can be found at http://networkname:9080. This of course is only possible if the proper firewall rules are allowed during setup, which you will be prompted for during installation.

new opening screen

Once installed and running the first thing of note is the revamped start page for Remote Potato. This new look is certainly more stylish and even a little bit entertaining watching the background respond to mouse movements. Those looking for something different can even choose from a few other themes in the Remote Potato server configuration including retro and minimalist. There’s also a blank theme included for those looking to customize for themselves.

The biggest new feature of recent version, however, is the ability to remotely stream Recorded TV to anywhere with access to the internet. Simply press the Recorded TV entry in Remote Potato’s menu to bring up a listing of recorded television. Just choose an episode, press play and select a quality. Here of course is where it gets a little sticky.

In normal quality, over a gigabit network, everything was able to stream from the main Media Center machine (no lightweight machine). Unfortunately, normal quality was terrible to actually watch. Content was fairly blocky during action sequences even on HD content.

HD Normal quality

Likely this was only due to the quality settings chosen when play began, unfortunately, we couldn’t get HD content to successfully stream over the local network in any higher quality setting than normal. Hopes were high as it is a gigabit network but the buffer would start to climb then abruptly “wonk out” displaying random numbers. Also the server would report all clients disconnected in debug mode’s event viewer.

Standard Definition content was able to be streamed in full quality (Ultra) with considerable success over the local network. There was quite a bit of buffering going on at some points but the show was ultimately watchable in the default view. Under the full screen view, however, there was considerable interlacing visible though when scaling standard definition to 1080p in a web browser this is completely forgivable.

HQ nonHD Interlacing

Yet to be tested personally, streaming across the internet is likely to only give worse results with a much more limited available bandwidth to work with. Though the program has spawned an epic thread on The Green Button spanning over 52 pages at this point and the answer may lie somewhere in there to solve our streaming troubles. If you experience any issues the thread appears to be a fantastic place to get technical support for Remote Potato bot from the community and the project owner carlosp_uk.

Browsing around to the older features of the program this is one thing Remote Potato still does extremely well. Remote scheduling of recordings and viewing of the TV guide have become much more stylized and easier to use. New features include loading the EPG data, including channel icons, directly from the Media Center machine as opposed to retrieving them on each client machine.

new channel logos

With new selectors for popular times of the day and the ability to quickly select later dates it’s almost easier to use than the built-in Media Center TV guide. Shows are now colored coded similar to the option available in Windows 7 Media Center and any icons added by My Channel Logos are loaded automatically.

Search the guide from the main menu as well as managing scheduled recordings and even series schedules, Remote Potato still does all of this very well. Even better it’s all complete free and open-source, two of our favorite words. Be sure to give Remote Potato a try, it’s definitely worth the time to install and even seems to run straight out of the box very well. Even if you haven’t the need for remote scheduling capability it’s interesting to see what’s slowly becoming possible with Windows 7 Media Center.

8 Comments

Comment #9157 from chadd [Reply]

how does remote potato work in light of the previous hack7mc post about MCEbuddy removing commercials, reencoding from .wtv to [user choice] and moving the default MCE recorded tv location to a different user specified dir.

specifically, does it support file types other than .wtv? and can you specify which recorded tv dir it reads from for files to stream?

Comment left April 8, 2010 at 1:59 pm Permanent Link
@Reply #9160 from Michael Healy [Reply]

I believe it gets the Recorded TV listing straight from Media Center though so unless it’s DVR-MS or WTV I don’t know if it will be picked up. I believe the way it works it should be able to support other files though, they just wont be listed.

Comment left April 8, 2010 at 2:25 pm Permanent Link
Comment #9163 from PharmNerd [Reply]

Remote streaming more-or-less mimics your local tests. HD content maxes out at Normal (For 1080i. You can pick one setting above Normal for 720p). SD content can stream at Ultra.

I think the bottleneck is somewhere in the encoding process.

Comment left April 8, 2010 at 4:15 pm Permanent Link

fl0PPsy
Comment #9185 from fl0PPsy [Reply]

I’d like to see streaming of Live Tv with channel changing. Once I find a free addon that lets me do that I might move back to using MCE.

Comment left April 9, 2010 at 1:10 am Permanent Link
@Reply #9197 from Michael Healy [Reply]

What are you using now if you dont mind me asking? and what features do you like the best about it?

Comment left April 9, 2010 at 8:39 am Permanent Link

Matt Beezle
Comment #9198 from Matt Beezle [Reply]

As far as streaming live tv, you can always go to the guide and select the show you want to watch to record, then you can stream the “currently recording show.” You do not have to wait until it is finished recording to start streaming.

Comment left April 9, 2010 at 9:42 am Permanent Link

fl0PPsy
Comment #9217 from fl0PPsy [Reply]

At the moment I’m using TVheadend(Linux based) together with XBMC although I’m about to move to VDR as my Tv server. I only moved to a Linux based TV server and media centre because I couldnt find a good free live tv streaming solution for Windows 7.

I’m quite happy with Tvheadend since it happily streams to all my PC’s in the house (including ones connected via WIFI without skipping) and allows channel changing too. At the moment I have a dual head tuner in the machine so I can have 2 ppl on the network browsing channels. One thing that I prefer about Tvheadend is that it saves all recorded shows straight into mkv files that can easily be played by anyone and backed up. The web interface for scheduling recordings and setting up the whole app is quite nice too. TVheadend can also handle Sat and Cable signals but thats whole another ball game that I havent played with.

Comment left April 9, 2010 at 10:00 pm Permanent Link

Nottageekbutloveputers
Comment #56737 from Nottageekbutloveputers [Reply]

Ever since I got digital Tv, I can’t record shows from Media Center on my Windows 7. I have the cable directly to the computer, not thru the set top box as the box is on the huge Tv and my DVD recorder, plus the DVR. When I hit record, it does nothing. Any help would be appreciated. Don’t use it often but sometimes you just wonder WHY it doesn’t work :)

Comment left January 4, 2012 at 3:26 pm Permanent Link

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